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Daniel’s 70th Week: The Biggest “Prophetic” Dilemma? June 9, 2010

Posted by Henry in Eschatology & End Times.
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Another dilemma I would like to draw attention to concerning Daniel’s 70th week revolves around the current state of Israel, which scholars believe marks the “prophetic return of the Jews” to the Holy Land and the precursor to Christ coming. If the current state of Israel, birthed in 1948 as a result of the Balfour Declaration do indeed mark the prophetic return of the Jews then there is a problem in reconciling this to the traditional view to interpreting Daniel’s 70th week. Firstly, according to the interpretation Daniel’s 70th week will occur in a future time period in which the anti-christ will confirm a covenant with Israel at the start of the week and in the middle of the week (3 and ½ years later) will break the covenant and cause the sacrifice to cease and establish the abomination which makes desolate in Jerusalem. This results in another future exile of Israel as it flees into the wilderness for 42 months.

 We know from scripture that Israel has been exile (or made desolate) twice; the first time when Nebuchadnezzar plundered Israel and took most of the people captive to Babylon. The second desolation occurred when Titus the Roman general sacked Jerusalem in circa 70 A.D. But is this third period of exile after a second restoration period supported in scripture? No doubt a vast proportion of Christendom believes this to be the case. But what does scripture say? Here is what Isa 11:11-12 says though it is worthwile for the reader to read from verse 1 to get the full picture:

 11And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. 12And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

 We note here that the Lord will gather the remnant of his people the second time. If we read from verse 1 it should become clear that this day in which the Lord gathers Israel the second time is at His coming. How do we know this? Verse 4 provides the conclusive evidence:

 4But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

 It is confirmed in 2 Thess 2:8 that Jesus will slay the wicked (man of sin) with the breath of His mouth at His coming and in Rev 19:15 we learn that a sharp sword goes out of His mouth and that He shall rule the nations with a rod of iron (at His coming). Where then is this idea of a third dispersion and a third re-gathering of Israel? That is perhaps the biggest dilemma of them all!

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1. Paul Bortolazzo - June 9, 2010

Henry,

Hebrews 9:27 tells us Christ will appear on earth a second time for the spiritual salvation of those eagerly waiting him. Appear in this verse means to physically appear. The Son of Man won’t touch the earth at His coming. Paul is addressing the physical return of the Messiah for the salvation of Israel (Dan. 9:24, Rev. 10:1-7, Rom. 11:25-27). When believing Jews see Jesus they will cry out, ‘barukh haba b’shem Adonai,’ (blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord) (Mat. 23:39). This will take place during the Day of Atonement, the fulfillment of the mystery of God, the spiritual and later physical salvation of Israel. The 144,000 are the first fruits of this remnant that will flee to Azal after Jesus splits the Mount of Olives (Rev. 14:1-4, Zech 14:2-4) In order to grasp the events making up His coming one must grasp this critical truth.

2. Henry - June 21, 2010

Paul,

Interesting though your response is it does not answer the question highligted by the dilemma that I posed.

Have you ever heard of the Neturei Karta? Well they are a group of Orthodox Jews who are opposed to the current state of Israel – I believe they are mainly based in America. According to them the Jewish State is illigitmate and that Zionism stands in opposition to the Torah. You can visit there website to learn this truth. They believe that they are not entitled to statehood until Messiah comes and that this is what the Torah states.

I am in accordance with this view because I do not see where it is written in prophecy that there will be a “prophetic return” of the Jews outside of the events that occur when Christ comes. Note that God said, through Isaiah the prophet that He will gather them a SECOND time. We know that the first gathering was after the Babylonian dispersion under Nebuchadnezzar and the sencond dispersion occured in 70 A.D. The next gathering of Israel occurs at Christ coming. At least this is what scripture states in Isaiah 11:11-12. Note also that the Jeremaiah 31 gathering is snynonymous here because in verse 12 God said that they will sorrow no more. Clearly then if Israel were to be dispersed a third time they would be sorrowful and this would conflict with God’s own word in Jeremaiah 31. The only conclusion to be reached therefore is that the current “gathering” of Israel is not legitimate (hence the reason why many Orthodox Jews refused to migrate to Israel). A future temple along with sacrifices will not be ligitimate because the Old Covenant is inoperable by virtue of the New.

Could Daniel 9 therefore be referring to a temple with sacrifices that have no legitimacy? The only temple therefore that had legitimacy would have been the rebuilt temple after the first dispersion. There was a direct command from the Lord to go out and rebuild the temple. There is nothing in scripture relating to a future third temple, therefore the temple that was to be destroyed arguably seems to be the said rebuilt temple. Lets look at the scriptures again:

Dan 9
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood,

I think the text is very clear that the Angel is speaking of the destruction of the very same city in it’s “current” format which had been rebuilt and which was to be destroyed again (the 70 A.D. destruction). Obviously though this would not sit well with interpreters who believe that the portion of text is referring to the anti-christ who will cause all this to happen during the seven last years of planet earth. There is one little piece of the puzzle though which is overlooked.

The angel said that the destruction thereof (of Jerusalem) sall be with a flood. Flood in this sense does not mean water but a flood of an army and this prophetic destruction/dispersion by Rome can be found in another place in scripture. Enter Revelations 12:

15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

From reading the earlier part of Revelation 12 we can discern that it was Rome who represented the ruling head of this serpent which sought to devour the man child, Jesus. It is clear then that it is this same Rome which cast a flood out of it’s mouth after the woman which brought forth the man child causing her to flee into the wilderness. We know Rome under Titus did indeed overun Jeruslamen with it’s armies and caused the second dispersion of Israel. This therefore ties in with Daniel’s prophecy in Daniel 9.


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