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Tithing Not a Matter of Salvation! Is that so? March 13, 2012

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There are those who consider extensive attention to the subject of tithing as a waste of time because it will not have any bearing on salvation. This may be true but may also be false depending on where you stand. Indeed there are some preachers who teach the church that they will NOT go to heaven if they don’t tithe. So what is the answer then – does tithing have a bearing on our salvation or not? This is the question I hope to explore in this blog entry.

I have already presented a number of articles on the subject of tithing under the Tithing category so I do not wish to reproduce what I already said in those entries here. The purpose of those posts was to scripturally establish the truth about tithing. However, there is an overarching point of those posts that many reading who simply read on the surface often miss. The point of those posts isn’t to divide people into camps of “anti-tithers” vs “pro-tithers” – I am NOT overtly concerned with how much one chooses to give to their church or the work of ministry. The overarching question however is this: Which gospel have you received and which Jesus have you had preached to you? Is it the gospel that says, “Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us… (Gal 3:13)” OR is it the gospel that says you have not been redeemed from the curse of the law and you are required to continue to observe it?” After all, if we continue to preach that one MUST observe tithing are we not saying that one is still under the law? If one is still under the law are we not saying that Jesus did not die for the sins of the world? Can one not see that tithing when preached in this way can cause us to be caught betwixt two places – being that we are either redeemed from the curse of the law or if we are not redeemed then must we continue to do the works of the law?

In speaking to the Galatians, Paul admonished them to, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” (Gal 5:1). The yoke of bondage here that Paul speaks of is the law. Lets look at what else Paul had to say about this in the following verses of Gal 5:

2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. 7Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? 8This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you. 9A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. (Gal 5:2-9)

We could substitute the word “circumcised” here for “tithing” and it would have the same meaning. In other words, if we seek to observe the tithing law (one part of the law), Christ will profit us nothing for if we tithe according to the law we have become a debtor to the whole law (meaning that we owe it to ourselves and to God to observe the whole law); as a result we have fallen from grace. Is this now not a matter of salvation? For if you have fallen from grace then you shall perish. Looking at verse 9 we note Paul’s warning that a “little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.” What this means is that this false teaching is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole dough.

In Gal 5:8 we read that this persuasion to observe a part of the law, circumcision in this case, does not come from Him (God in Christ) that calls you. In like fashion the persuasion to observe the tithe law does not come from God in Christ who calls us today to receive the free gift of salvation. It is interesting to note that this teaching of observing the tithe law (leaven) has now permeated the gospel and consequently the world wide church. With this “small” error creeping in, this has paved the way for other observances of the law such as first fruit giving, honouring holy days such has the Day of Atonement etc., to creep in also. One of the reasons why such teachings come about is because there are those who misunderstand what Christ said in Matt 5:17, that He did not come to destroy the law or the prophets but to fulfil them. Christ fulfilled the law when He declared on the cross, “it is finished” (John 19:30). Because Christ fulfilled the law, He established a new covenant in His blood so that we can now attain salvation by Grace through faith and not through the works of the law (Eph 2:8-10; Gal 2:16, 21; Gal 3:3).

Let me reiterate here what I have always said in the previous posts on tithing, there is nothing inherently wrong in volunteering 10 percent of your income to the work of ministry if this is what you have decided in your own heart. However, if you seek to observe the tithe law you are fallen from grace. Anyone who teach that one must observe the tithing law is preaching another gospel, and if another gospel another Jesus thus perverting the gospel of Christ (Gal 1:6-9).

On the basis of the scriptural evidence presented therefore it is clear that tithing is in fact a matter which pertains to salvation if it pertains to the observance of the law – the yoke of bondage which Christ has set us free from by His own blood. I will end with the following question that Paul posed to the Galatians:

3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? (Gal 3:3)

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1. Christ Centered Teaching - March 14, 2012

Henry,
Many who would otherwise go to church stay away because they consider the pressure to tithe a form of,”cover charge “.
I was told this by an unbeliever who I continue to speak to about Jesus.
For our sakes, Jesus became poor.
That in contrast to what we see in the church today.
I think you reflect truth clearly Henry.
Thanks for posting.

2. Henry - March 14, 2012

Christ Centered Teaching,
Thanks for posting. What you say is very true. I once visited a forum where there were a lot of people deriding the church and criticising pastors because they have been left disappointed by the tithing doctrine.

It is interesting you say that for our sakes Christ became poor. Yet there are those who preach that Jesus which in materials things while He was here and that as a result Christians too should be rich. The apostacy gets worse and worse and that is because many today will not endure sound doctrine. Speaking the truth will not make us popular but may the Lord help us to continue to speak up for the truth whether by blogging or in other formats.

3. Bird - March 27, 2012

I agree with this 100%. I haven’t found too many people in my own little circle that would also agree, though. I give away money. I’m doing it as needed or as I feel like Jesus wants me to, but I’m not doing it because I am locked on 10% as a duty. That is part of the old law…Cool to see someone else teach this concept!

4. To tithe, or not to tithe | Thoughts of Sam Isaacson - March 27, 2012

[…] should give whatever’s on our heart to give. I even recently discovered someone saying that people who tithe can’t be saved! I certainly disagree with him on that. Edit: he’s corrected any misunderstanding […]

5. Henry - March 30, 2012

Bird,
Thanks for your comment. Indeed most churches that we will encounter today are set on the 10% duty to tithe even though a close examination will show it is not biblical. If you give away your money as needed you are doing the will of Christ. God bless.

6. Robert Yocom - July 5, 2012

I give to God as I see fit. It isnt at my church because I disagree with the compensation for the pastor etc and though he is a good man constantly hustles for money and sincerely believes ” an honest man gives AT LEAST 10%” I give to those who have nothing in the name of God or from God. I will give my time at church but no money.

7. Henry - July 8, 2012

Robert,
Perhaps the compensation structure that we have for pastors today is not biblical but the Lord has ordained that those who minister in the gospel should be fed from it. Paul of course did not make use of this provision but it is not unbiblical for a pastor or elders of the church to be fed from the gospel. Giving to those in need is should be a trait within all true Christians and this should include both the needy inside and outside the church.

God bless

8. Robert Yocom - July 8, 2012

Henry: Our pastor gets at least $1000/mo social security, 4-500 mo gas-royalty and wants to sock our little church for 54000 year. The church secretary and her husband get at least 60-70000 year in retirement/social security and want to sock the church for another 5-6000year This consumes close to 60% of budget. This doesnt sound like need but greed.And the pastor has a new opportunity for one to give…..but it is in addition to the supposed “tithe’ almost every week. I am not taking from my resources to enrich a select few (elders, pastors) or anyone else.

9. Henry - July 9, 2012

Robert,
In that case I completely agree with you. Giving money to the pastor and elders should be on the basis of need and should never be about enriching one set of church members at the expense of another. We have changed the purpose of the church to profitable enterprise and exact tithes to ensure the flow of funds through that enterprise. Even the ancient tithe was only ever used to support those in need including the needy Levites who did not have land or inheritance in Israel. Today we turn the church on its head and create the salaried pastor etc which puts great strain on church members. I don’t blame you if what you observe in your church falls short of biblical standards. You do better to give your resources to those around you who are in need.

10. Farai - January 14, 2013

I believe in wht u hv explained. But some say Jesus also obsrved it whn he instructd th desciple to tak wht ws in the fish’s mouth to pay. Whts ur view on this?

11. Henry - January 14, 2013

Farai,
If Jesus observed tithing the scripture is silent on it. The account you refer to which can be found in Matt 17:24-27 had nothing to do with tithing. This was a temple tax that was collected for the service of the temple as set out in Exo 30:11-16. This should not be confused with the tithe as the tithe was never money but edible things as evidenced in Matt 23:23 and Lev 27:30-33. There were circumstances where you could redeem the tithe for money but you had to add 20% of the value on top.

12. Henry - January 15, 2013

Farai,
Further to my last comment I would encourage you to read the below article which details the many different sources of money that flowed to the priests and into the temple and these were in addition to the tithes, which incidentality went to the Levites who in turn gave a tenth of the tithes they received to the priests.

https://spiritofdiscernment.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/i-am-not-against-tithing/

Robert Yocom - January 16, 2013

One cannot give to God, only his human “representative”. Our belief in God and our salvation is faith. I do not have faith in men including the “representatives”. Some are real, some partial and some fraud. . I am not giving up my financial resources to support some man, especially with what I have seen with the TV preachers and read and listened to over the last 7 years (since I became a Christian) concerning the churches and their constant quest for money……with tactics used at any cost to gain that. . I dont believe taht God would create an “elite” class (that being Pharisees, priests or pastors) and we are supposed to support them so they can live larger than us. Even if that is the case I will not submit.

13. descriptivegrace - May 26, 2013

“The overarching question however is this: Which gospel have you received and which Jesus have you had preached to you? Is it the gospel that says, ‘Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us… (Gal 3:13)’ OR is it the gospel that says you have not been redeemed from the curse of the law and you are required to continue to observe it?’ After all, if we continue to preach that one MUST observe tithing are we not saying that one is still under the law?”

Where does the Law say you will “go to hell” if you don’t tithe? It doesn’t. Where does the Law mention hell as a punishment for anything? It doesn’t. So why blame the Law? The purpose of tithing even under the Law had nothing to do with “hell” or “salvation”: it had everything to do with the fact that the Levites did not inherit land like the other tribes. Every other tribe inherited farm-land: the Levites inherited only the “service of the Lord” and so all their food came from the tithes and offerings. Do we have a situtation like that in Christianity? Not really. It depends I guess on your church. In the church I was raised in, we avoided having ministers who didn’t also hold a secular job as much as we could. In yours perhaps its a so-called “high church” with monks and bishops and various layabouts who need their full living from the church. So, how important tithing is depends on how your church functions with respect to the ways its ministers make their living.

14. descriptivegrace - May 26, 2013

And I don’t agree with the reasoning from Galatians that if someone believes they must observe some certain part of the Law (whether circumcision or tithing) that they are damned. That’s nonsense to me. It also appears to be rescinded in Romans. Remember in Galatians Paul is of the opinion that Peter is in the wrong for choosing to not destroy those for whom Christ died with his meat, whereas in Romans Paul himself urges us to act like Peter did in Antioch (i.e. the story told in Galatians). What I mean is, in Galatians Paul tells this story how that Peter in Antioch would eat unclean meat with the Gentiles, and then “certain men came from James” and in order to not offend those men who scrupled at eating unclean meat, Peter observed a Jewish diet for the duration of their stay. Paul flipped out about it and accused Peter of hypocrisy, but apparently everyone else including Barnabas was in agreement that what Peter did was right. Paul couldn’t understand it; to him it was a denial of the gospel. But by the time he wrote Romans, Paul had grown up a bit. Now Paul tells us to “bear the scruples of the weak” and that “it is better to not eat meat or drink wine at all than cause my brother to sin.” So, by the time he writes Romans, Paul has changed his mind, has come to see that what Peter did at Antioch was in fact the BEST course of action in his position. I think Paul’s thinking also changed on the matter of keeping little parts of the Law: in Romans he tells us some men observe a day and some don’t and that’s between them and God. But what is the day is the Sabbath? Shouldn’t they be damned, per Galatians? Per Galatians, yes, that’s what Paul thought then: but in Romans he is more mild. Probably because Galatians was written soon after conversion to Christianity and so as most ex-religionists and converts to a new religion do, he has a great animosity towards his old religion: but as he got further away from his conversion time, that animosity died off and his fierce hatred of his old religion waned and he become more rational, like Peter.

15. Nana - February 6, 2014

Henry you are absolutely wrong on your post. Tithing is never part of the law. Tithing was present so many years before the law was giving. Again your interpretation of “under the law” is completely wrong. Under the law means to either reject the Holy Spirit or Jesus, to live in sin or to stick to sacrificial laws of atonement for sin in the past.

In fact, tithing was endorsed by Jesus in Matth 23:23 when He said they should have observed the weightier matters of the law such as justice and mercy without neglecting others such as tithing. Tithe is for the Lord and Has continued to be His always. The question is “when did tithe cease to be the Lord’s?” If nothing has changed then anybody who fails to pay tithe has robbed God and it constitutes a serious sin as indicated in Malachi. Do nit be deceived, failing to honour tithing is a grave sin.

16. Henry - February 7, 2014

Nana,
You make the assertion with absolute certainty that I am wrong but you offer no biblical support for what you say. Which scripture do you use to establish that failing to honor tithing is a grave sin?

Let me ask you this: circumcision and animal sacrifices existed before the Law, is it also a grave sin if we don’t honor these? If not why not?

You quote Matt 23:23 where it clearly refers to the LAW to say that Jesus endorsed tithing. Jesus merely reaffirmed the Law here which was still in force and not a commandment to the New Testament church. Even if Jesus endorsed tithing does this mean we should tithe our mint, dill and cumin (garden herbs) to the church? Why do you want to substitute what God instituted and replace it with money, and then teach that if people don’t give money they are sinning?

Please take a look at this post: https://spiritofdiscernment.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/unravelling-the-tithing-dilemma/

Robert Yocom - February 7, 2014

One cannot give money to God only his surrogate…some pastor, priest, reverend and I dont like what they do with the money or the money they pay themselves.

17. Cindy - March 22, 2014

What can you say about the testimonies of those who went to heaven and heard about this tithing? I read this site and they are compiled here: http://christiscoming777.com/2012/03/02/tithing-is-it-required-and-are-there-eternal-consequences-for-non-tithing/. I also know that the NT says “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” 2 Cor 9:7 which actually was the verse that I came across while mulling over this issue.

18. Henry - March 24, 2014

Hi Cindy,
What I will say to this is that a testimony given by someone is NOT biblical doctrine and we should not base our beliefs on this. Our faith and what we believe should be founded in scripture. Anyone can make up a claim to say they have seen visions, gone to heaven, done all manner of things but these claims are not necessarily true. They are unproven claims and it does not matter that these people claim to be Christians.

There is not a single example found in the New Testament of a Christian tithing or being required to tithe. People therefore make up outlandish claims to get people to “tithe” because there is no support for tithing in the New Testament. If the church was required to tithe, Jesus would have taught it, Peter would have taught, Paul, James, John etc would also have taught it but the simple fact is, its not there.

Henry

Cindy - March 25, 2014

Thanks so much for your response. In that link I posted, the author stated that God fully convinced him of the requirement of tithing for His people & its eternal consequences. He said that tithing is not a sacrificial, ceremonial or temple law that in the NT are clearly explained as no longer required, rather it is a moral law (as its defined as stealing in Malachi and is commandment not a suggestion. “Moral laws against such things as stealing, lying, adultery, idolatry, will always be wrong & punishable, and moral laws for things like putting God first, honoring your parents & tithing will always be required, as they reflect God’s unchanging righteousness, and are repeated in the NT… We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus which cannot be earned, but God’s word is also clear that many grace saved Christians will not make it to Heaven because of disobedience & continued lawlessness in their lives.” So what he is saying is that not tithing is actually being lawless and although I have struggle understanding this, since giving from the heart in the NT is more of what I see in the NT, I hope that you can also provide your thoughts on this.

19. Henry - March 25, 2014

Hi Cindy,

Let me say for starters that I admire your enquiring mind and that you are prepared to question things before accepting them off hand as the truth. Keep doing that. I have read some of the article you pointed to – didn’t bother to read all the so-called “testimonies” but I will address the specific portion you have quoted. You said the author said that God fully convinced him of the requirement of tithing for His people. George Bush also said that God told him to invade Iraq. Many false prophets have come and gone claiming that God told them things. Look at Jim Jones who led over 900 people to death in a mass suicide/murder in Guyana in 1978. What we need to do therefore is to examine any claim by someone who claim to be speaking for God in light of scripture. Firstly, this separation of a “moral law” from a “sacrificial law” is not biblically correct. The Bible does not speak of two separate Laws in this respect, it simple refers to “the Law” when referring to the Old Covenant. It is man who have twisted the word of God in order to establish their own doctrine by creating two laws out of the Old Covenant.

Tithing is a part of the Law – that is the Old Covenant. One of the purposes of tithing was to support the Levites who in turn gave a tithe to support the priests in the temple. All of the Law derived from the Levitical priesthood because Israel was a theocracy governed by God’s law as defined by the Old Covenant. With the abolition of the Priesthood the Law (the Old Covenant) was abolished – not just a part of it. The key thing to note is that the church today is a reconstitution of the theocracy of God but which has expanded from Israel to include Gentiles etc who were outside of the Commonwealth of Israel. So the Levitical priesthood was abolished to establish the Priesthood of Christ and with the changing of the priesthood a change in the Law was necessary (see Heb 7:12). There is therefore a new Law (a New Covenant) in operation today which derives from (or governed by) the Priesthood of Christ Jesus. In that Law tithing does not exist. All of the moral points mentioned naturally flows from the new Law as well but we are NOT following the old Law anymore. We are not observing two Covenants at the same time. This is the key point that the author of the blog you referenced does not understand. The author has made an heretical claim that Grace saved Christians will not make it to heaven because of disobedience and continued lawlessness in their lives. One cannot be grace saved but at the same time be lawless. To be Grace saved means that one believes in Jesus by faith and have the righteousness of God imputed to them. This is what it means when scripture says that Jesus fulfilled the Law so that the righteousness of the law may be fulfilled in us who walk by faith in Him. Scripture clearly teaches therefore that the Old law is abolished and that today if we seek to follow the Old law (that is any part of it) we have fallen from Grace (see Gal 3). You cannot therefore be Grace saved but still seek to follow the old law. This is heresy and the author does not understand this.

I don’t blame you for not understanding what the author is saying because he is using “spiritual gymnastics” to draw conclusions that are unbiblical. As I have pointed out the law has changed as a result of the new Priesthood. We only need to look at Matt 5 for example to see how the law changed. E.g.,

21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. (Matt 5)

You can see here that Jesus was setting a new standard of righteousness which exceeded the letter of the old law. This was the new law which can be summed up by one word: LOVE.

Is this surprising? Well look at Romans 13:

8Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. (Rom 13)

The whole law is summed up in one command, “Love your neighbour as yourself” (Gal 5:14, Matt 22:37-40).

So Cindy, you are not being disobedient to God if you don’t tithe. In fact tithing is an UNBIBLICAL practice in the church today. I would encourage you to read some of my other tithing articles if you click on the tithing category as I have set out in various posts the scriptural position concerning the tithe. I hope this will help but feel free to ask if you have any more questions. You can also check Tithing Truth and The School of Christ under blogroll for more truths on tithing

20. Robert Yocom, - March 26, 2014

So, Cindy.\ so a Christian is supposed to give money to some pastor at a church (whom most I see are overpaid) in order to get to Heaven? Like I said one can never give to God, only some human here on earth claiming to be “God’s” representative and I am sorry I don t believe the majority of them based upon what I have seen anmd heard on my lifetime.

21. Henry - March 26, 2014

Robert,
It is interesting that we talk about giving to church today and treat the church as an abstract when the church is you and I. The church is the people who congregate to worship. However we have treated the building today as the church and treat those who take care of it’s administrative affairs as the High Priest and Levites. Isn’t it interesting though that our very High Priest, Jesus Christ, did not collect tithes and offerings? Neither did Peter and the rest of the apostles. After Jesus, Peter was called to be the first shepherd or pastor yet he did not collect tithes. Yet today we have people telling us that God requires the tithe. If God had required the tithe then was Paul being disobedient when he refused to take anything from the churches for himself lest he hindered the Gospel? Why can’t these pastors follow Paul’s example?

Cindy - March 27, 2014

Hello Henry,

I appreciate your response. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights which to me makes Biblical sense. I will try to read your posts on the site especially on this topic.

God bless.

22. essuman kwaku - April 3, 2014

tithing is clearly not a part of the new testament, and Jesus never took tithes, neither did his disciples do so after his departure. those who therefore hinges their salvation on it are doing so from sheer ignorance, i suppose they need our collective prayers to be enlightened. the book of Hebrews makes it clear by stating:Hebrews 7:5 and verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham. meaning, it was a commandment for those who were under the law and not we Christian, for we are not under the law.

23. Chrissy - August 11, 2014

To teach, preach or pay tithes now because you think it is necessary is to say that not all of the law of Moses was fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
THIS VERSE SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT IT:

“I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” Galatians 2:21

Another translation of this same verse: Galatians 2: 19-21 (MSG)

19-21 What actually took place is this: I tried keeping rules and working my head off to please God, and it didn’t work. So I quit being a “law man” so that I could be God’s man. Christ’s life showed me how, and enabled me to do it. I identified myself completely with him. Indeed, I have been crucified with Christ. My ego is no longer central. It is no longer important that I appear righteous before you or have your good opinion, and I am no longer driven to impress God. Christ lives in me. The life you see me living is not “mine,” but it is lived by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I am not going to go back on that.

Is it not clear to you that to go back to that old rule-keeping, peer-pleasing religion would be an abandonment of everything personal and free in my relationship with God? I refuse to do that, to repudiate God’s grace. If a living relationship with God could come by rule-keeping, then Christ died unnecessarily.

“This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?” Galatians 3:2

“Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Yeshua Christ, even we have believed in Yeshua Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 2:16

“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” Galatians 3:3,4

That kind of teaching (law) blows my mind. If you tell people stuff like that: you’ve made it a law. Just a warning, WHY would anyone want to teach a doctrine that even the apostles wouldn’t dare teach in the NT?

God has greater riches than money to bestow upon His people. Beware of ministries that teach a “prosperity” doctrine.

THE WARNING: 2 Peter 3:16 (KJV)
“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

2 Peter 3:16 (NLV)

16 He wrote about these things in all of his writings. Some of these things are hard to understand. People who do not have much understanding and some who are not strong in the faith change the meaning of his letters. They do this to the other parts of the Holy Writings also. They are destroying themselves as they do this.

Henry - August 16, 2014

Chrissy, Well said. If only the church had this same understanding. Although I suspect there are some who know the truth but continue to propagate a lie because they believe that unless they bind people to tithing the church will not give as much money as needed.

Robert Yocom, - August 16, 2014

How on earth does a pastor making 50K or so tell some retired individual making 25K or less and barely getting by that he has to give 10% (minimum)..?? I have heard that one is “not honest” “not obedient” “doesnt love God” and “wont receive blessings” if not giving a “minimum of 10%”. Further more, “if one takes the money destined for Sun church and “fills the gas tank, fills the refrigerator or gets the car repaired, and has no money for church one is robbing Godf.” I do not believe a word of it and pity all those poor ignorant fools who believe that or donate to TV pastors who make that big money. Absoulutely unbelievable how stupid US people are.

24. Martin - January 19, 2015

@Chrissy – very good

If we try to get into Go’s good books by obeying laws, we also leave Christ behind.

25. Chrissy H. - January 20, 2015

Thank you Henry and Martin….as God stated in Hosea 4:6 – (My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.)—–However some are just destroyed because they cannot DISCERN what the Bible is saying and teaching, hence, Nana (above) with her Matthew 23:23 misunderstanding. It’s upsetting, to say the least.

26. Henry - January 23, 2015

Chrissy,
Right on point. They cannot discern and we must remember Christ’s teaching that many will come in His name deceiving many. Their arguments will be so convincing such that if it were possible they would deceive the very elect.

27. Tiffany Jackson - June 29, 2015

This was good what part I read are you a Bible scholar? I may have other questions! Thank you!!

28. Henry - June 29, 2015

Tiffany Jackson,
I am not a Bible scholar in the traditional sense. I try to study the scriptures in my own time, which we all should do. The people in Berea for instance did not simply accept Paul’s message of the Gospel but they “studied” the scriptures daily to see if what Paul preached was true (see Acts 17:10-15). I am just trying to do the same.

29. Robert Munyui Kamunyu - July 20, 2015

Tithing was under and is under the law with a curse for Christians seeking salvation under the law, Galatians 3:3-13, Malachi 3:1-18. When pastors and priest lie by quoting Malachi 3:1-18,under the law IN OLD COVENANT, how many Christians line up to be served with food when tithes and offering under the law are given? Is the storehouse pastors’ and priests’ house or the Church being the body of Christ? Saved Christians by grace IN NEW COVENANT who are lead and taught by the Holy Spirit are not under law or in curse in the law. Those who simply imply Christians are under curse for not tithing put into question about unfinished work of redemption (SALVATION) by Christ Jesus on cross of Calvary which is bought and maintained continuously in tithes paid to them. Yet Christ is not ashamed to call us brethren whom He has sanctified. Hebrew 2:9-13.We have been redeemed from the curse of the law, Christ being made a curse for us : for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangs on a tree. Galatians 3:8-13. Christians saved by grace are ministers of the new testament born of love with exceeding glory which surpassed the glory that was in law with Moses. We have been redeemed from the curse of the law to adoptions of sons in Royal Priesthood ( Pastors ,Priest and Bishops who are servants of God cannot subject sons of God in Royal Priesthood to tithe taxes- absolute illegal) and are not under the law, Galatians 5:1, Galatians4:4-5,2 Corinthians 3:1-18. Salvation under the law one attains it at last breath on earth having done all that pertains to the law which is hard for one to accomplish. Even the tithe which was given by Abraham was under the law of sin and death from the fall of Adam and Eve. Those who lie would like to deceive Christians that tithe was before the law but before which law. When Christ was born He was given gifts and not tithes Mathew 2:11-12. Salvation under spiritual law of love by grace is freely given and attained with free miracles from God our Father, Ephesians 2:4 -9, Ephesians 2:13 -20. Under Leviticus priesthood tithes were given to Levites priests for use by the tribe of Levi and tithe of tithe to the high Priest for they shared no land apart from the walled towns they were allocated to stay in for their continuous sacrifice to God, Numbers 18:20 -29.Widows, strangers ,fatherless and orphans benefited from tithes and offerings given to Levites, Deuteronomy 14:22-29. In Christianity widows were asked to be catered by close brethren to ease burden to the Church. There were also tithes of different kinds in Israel. There was also a tithe where a family had to eat all before the Lord, Deutreronomy12:6-7. In Christ Jesus we are saved by grace to adoptions of sons in Royal Priesthood of Christ and not by works of law ,Galatians 3:8-13,Acts13: 38-39, Galatians 4: 4-5, Galatians2:16-21, Galatians 5:18. Sons have direct access to the Father and free common inheritance not bought or worked for from the Father. For servants ( Pastors and Priest) are servants of God worthy all respects and due help.
IN NEW TESTAMENT two priesthood are compared Hebrew7: 7-28, Hebrew8:6 -13, Hebrew 9:6-9, Hebrew 10:8-23. Leviticus priesthood under the law with tithes, death, discontinuity and its acceptance under glory of law without the great commission was done away in Christ and the holy priesthood of Christ without tithes, death and discontinuity with exceeding glory under which Christians are in salvation being a Holy nation and Loyal Priests to preach to the world GOD being their Father in New Covenant Ministry. In that he said,. a new covenant he has made the first old .Now that which decays and waxed old is ready to vanish away Hebrew8:-13. Tithing weakens the Royal Priesthood of Christians in Christ where Christians are supposed to give themselves as living sacrifice in the mission vision fields. The Christians Royal Priesthood in Christ Jesus is internally weekend from within ,fought and economically drained mostly for indoors ministries under revival of Leviticus priesthood by pastors. The Royal Priesthood is internally spiritually emaciated and trodden upon.2 Corinthians2:1-13, 2Peter 2:5-9. Priesthood involves sacrifices. The priesthood was changed from the old covenant( Leviticus Priesthood) to the new covenant (Loyal Priesthood of labor in Christ without tithes allocations which is not appreciated) and the law governing it was changed. Christ requested His disciples to give the crowd food to eat , Matthew 14:15-16. Jesus Christ told Peter look after his lambs and later to look after His sheep ( service) in clear shift from Leviticus priesthood John 21:15-17. JESUS CHRIST our High Priest is the mediator of better New Covenant established upon better promises. Hebrew8:6-8. Under Leviticus priesthood an animal for sacrifice was alive between the alter of sacrifice and the Levite priest holding the sacrificial knife. Sheep remained alive for a period of time only when they were delivered many animals for sacrifice and the alter could not hold them all for sacrifice .We are dead to sin and alive in Christ who live in us being a living sacrifice to God.
Levite Pastors and Priest are comfortable with brethren who live like dead sacrifice. Levites priests were to labor to sacrifice and not tendering the flocks or do any farming ,Numbers 18:20-32 Joshua7:7.They lived in walled towns .Pastors and Priests who revive the Leviticus priesthood removed by Christ and merge it to the Loyal priesthood of Christ do so for personal gains in mass meticulous cheating in tithes allocations. Leviticus priesthood under law remained hostile to the Ministry of Christ and His disciples who suffered in their hands even after Christ’s death. Levite priests beat and wanted to kill all disciples of Christ whom they told not to preach in His name. Acts 5:17-42. Let well educated brethren teach the Word of God the same way as learned Doctor Luke and Br. Paul did for spiritual growth of the body of Christ. Let well educated Christians stand for justice like Dr . Gamaliel who was a doctor of law who in his response rescued the apostles from eminent death in the hands of Levite priests Acts;5:17-42. What pastors are not telling the Church (the bride/sons/ ambassadors /advocate and ministers of the new covenant in the Word/children) is the reason Christ had in choosing the twelve disciples ( under new covenant in Grace ) and opted not to use the Levite Priests ( in old covenant under law) that were well established and placed had they to be chosen preach to the world. LET PASTORS , BISHOPS AND PRIESTS HONESTLY PURGE THEIR HEARTS AND SPEAK THE TRUTH ON TITHES. CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW IN THE OLD COVENANT. The intrigue of doctrinal falsehood on tithes smartly engineered and flamboyantly taught by them worldwide cannot be justified or be cleansed by their religious social status. Christians should not be for entertainments but for truth preached and taught which is not in contest in numerical strength for acceptance. It quite clear from the Bible that there is no perfection and justification under works of the law. Galatians 2:16- 21, Galatians 3:8-13,Galatians 4;4-5,Galatians 5:1,18. Hebrew 10;8-9. For Christians God has no pleasure for sacrifice and offerings and burnt offerings and offering for sins and for which is offered under law. WHY WOULD THE CLERGY NOT TELL CHRISTIANS TO SACRIFICE FOR THEIR SINS BUT TITHE ? Selective preaching and teaching on tithes falsehood cover up still remains. Tithes falsehood taught has remained guarded and guided in shrewd cover up of honored fortune justification hidden in tithes falsehood teaching proliferation. Christians must know the truth to be free and move from being trapped in great justified doctrinal falsehood taught ,Ephesians4:11-14. In law men in old covenant remained the instructors and enforcers of the law. In new covenant the Holy Spirit remains our wonderful teacher and counselor in grace. For sure those who are in bondage of the law have men appreciation at hand but those lead by the Holy Spirit in Liberty within the yoke of Christ in grace have the acceptance of God. Christians should not be held spiritually hostage by unifying falsehoods taught in concealed falsehood out of labor. This would be spiritual blindness and slavery for many Christians hard for some to overcome. Apostles did not teach and preach the Gospel Of Jesus Christ through deceptive greediness but by sound doctrines, 2Peter:1-3. Christians taught for doctrines the commandments of men replace Jesus Christ for men who become their gods. They admire them for their earthly great achievements and they testify much of their stardom. Mathew 15: 5-9. There is the church of men where men teach for doctrines commandments of men and Church of Jesus Christ which cannot be swallowed by institutionalized organized falsehood and greed concealed in martyrdom of false knowledge which is not in the True Word of God. Even those workers of iniquity with miracles shall not cheat and defeat the church of Christ since He holds the Church in His holy hands in due time. Matthew15:8-9. The gates of hell shall not prevail over the Church of Jesus Christ. Mathew16:18. The Church of Christ cannot live by glorious commandments instituted by men standards. Christians must break free and be clean from men commandments enslavement. Christians’ true love and care will then freely flourish. Christians should not feel comfortable for being appreciated for accepting and supporting goals of concealed falsehood taught through feigned words in covetousness to make merchandize of us,2 Peter2:1-3
They are amazed and bitter for we stand for Christ without seeking their favor or consultation on tithes issues without joining the sweeping wave in teaching tithes falsehood benefits acclaimed. The way they have reacted to those who are opposed to tithes as a doctrinal falsehoods for Christians shows well from the comfort of their hearts that they are deeply battered by the truth and have realized they are known on cheating on tithes fortunes. We are not in competition in teaching about tithes falsehood. It befit us well to be called Christians of low estate with little minds for not supporting tithes teachings for us to fit perfectly in the will of Jesus Christ. We are satisfied with what God has provided us without gains of falsehood. We do not clamor for glamorous wealth of falsehood. They have stood as heroes in championing tithing as a way getting blessings for Christians from God which we have totally disagreed with them which they look as affront to their spiritual dignity. They have degraded the Royal Priesthood of Christ and nullified grace and love of Christ to themselves. THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE MANY UNSUSPECTING BELIEVERS NOT KNOWING WHAT THEIR ARE TAUGHT MANY TIMES HAD BEEN DISCUSSED IN COUNCILS OF MEN FOR UNIFORMITY AND NOT WITH THE HOLLY SPIRIT. Let Bishops ,Pastors, Priests and Church Elders handle the Church of Christ within Christians doctrines established by Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Apostles in the mission field vision. CHRISTIANS MUST FACE AND ADDRESS THE MASS SWEEPING AND SOOTHING FALSEHOOD TAUGHT BY SOME WELL EDUCATED ELITE CHRISTIANS ABOUT TITHES BENEFITS AND BLESSINGS IN A SOBER SPIRITUAL REALITY FACE OUT. Tithes teaching is unexpected real falsehood from those held dearly in trust by many Christian. The situation becomes more murky and tricky when church elders are accomplished in the classic falsehood which puts the church into mental slavery. The Royal Priesthood in grace is quite different from Leviticus Priesthood under the law. Leviticus Priesthood in the old covenant belonged to the Levite tribe among the eleven tribes in Israel but the Royal Priesthood in the new covenant under oppression and suppression belongs to all brethren in the world in Christ Jesus ( the Church / the body of Christ) who are ministers of the new covenant commissioned to preach to the world. The Royal Priesthood is well placed to reach the world more effectively at close quarters in Christ love and glory expected. It is quite unfortunate that Christians unknowingly are victims of systematic unmarked high professional intellectual falsehood commercialization cover up in tithes teaching by learned Christians brethren which is a disservice to the (church) body of Christ. But Christians have been warned not to be fools since for some preaching and teaching falsehood is a smart act energetically engaged and Christians are openly conned .Ephesians 5:15-16. Tithing under law impoverishes the Royal Priesthood of Christ physically and spiritually which make the Great commission less effective. When all saved Christians are in Royal Priesthood, to whom do you tithe to in the in new covenant? The Royal Priesthood needs to take its place in Christian missions empowered in New Covenant for Christians to work in glory of Christ love intended for the body of Christ. It quite clear from the Bible that there is no perfection and justification under works of the law. Galatians 2:16- 21, Galatians 3:8-13,Galatians 4;4-5, Galatians 5:1,18. Hebrew 10;8-9. Jesus Christ and his twelve disciples did not ask for tithes but only comments were made on tithes under the law. As early church had needs equally relevant to their time and did not ask for tithes ,we too have needs relevant to our time which require solving but no through tithes offerings.
A fountain cannot produce sweet and bitter water the same time. James 3:8-18. A new piece of cloth does not patch an old cloth nor do men put new wine in old bottles. Matthew 9:16-17. And with the priesthood changed there was need of changing the law governing it. Our royal priesthood in Christ Jesus is not after law of carnal commandment but after power of endless life Hebrews 7:7-26 .We Christian are saved by GRACE IN CHRIST LOVE(Spiritual Law) for we cannot be subjected to carnal law of sin and death crucified and done away by Christ on cross of Calvary. We are subjected to spiritual law of life in New Covenant in Christ Jesus and ought to have the spiritual understanding of the Word of God in liberty without corrupting the Word of God. Roman 8:1-2, Colossians 1:9-10. As God has blessed us in common inheritance of the saints, we should give sacrificially as we have purposed in our hearts in liberty and in love, Galatians 5:1, 2Corinthians 9;6-7, Galatians 6:6-7, Hebrew6:6-12,Hebrew13:11-16. Christ taught spiritual giving to God and to our parents, Luke 6:8 ,Matthew15:5-9. Paul also taught the same .2Corinthians 9:6-14, Philippians 2:4-5. Aaron was given unto Moses, the Levite priests were given unto Aaron, the eleven tribes of Israel were given unto Levite tribe to serve them but we Christians are purchased through the blood of Christ we are no man servants but servants of Christ 1Corinthians 7:21-2 , God is our father and our readily help in times of needs and not men. We are warned not to call any man our father in the spirit. Mathew23:9. Some have made men their fathers and call them fathers turning them their gods on earth. Numbers 3:9-15. No servant can hinder children access to the Father and His blessed inheritance. Are pastors, priest and Bishops in the Royal Priesthood of Christ or are in the Leviticus priesthood? Who coordinate pastors only to work for Christ for a living. Apostles of Christ worked with their hands for a living and for preaching the Gospel of Christ. All saved Christians are servants of Christ in the Royal Priesthood of Christ. Do we make the spiritual understanding between the Leviticus Priesthood under the law and the Royal Priesthood in grace in the New Covenant or do we mix the two distinctive priesthoods cunningly for selfish gain to eliminate the so called clergy poverty and mess up with the doctrine of salvation in Grace? Christ gave some apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and some teachers for the perfecting of saint in the work of the ministry for edifying the( church) body of Christ so us not to be deceived Ephesians4:11-19. Who set aside and allocated poverty and tithes to the pastors in preaching the Gospel of Christ since those who preach the Gospel (Christians/Royal priests) shall live by the Gospel or who bear the burden of mercy for the clergy to teach and preach falsehood on tithes for them not to be poor? When did they become pastors in poverty for the church to eliminate their poverty? Christians should share their wealth with the clergy willingly in Christ love but not in law. We are saved in Grace in Christ love and our sharing should be in love. We saved Christians are not justified by the law. Galatians 2:21. We saved Christians are servants of Christ Jesus in the Royal Priesthood of the saints. Why do many talk about key poverty of pastors on tithes among the five fold ministry? Where is their care and concerns for the other four ministries for they vouched for tithes not for the benefit of the body of Christ? This has brought a flood gate of preaching entrepreneurship boom diligently anchored by many on tithes. Some have spoken from the pulpit of brethren who don’t allow them eat tithes from their labor. Do they preach and teach for souls to be saved or for economic gains in tithes eating? Are they in Leviticus Priesthood or in Royal Priesthood of Christ? A GENUINE ANSWER IS REQUIRED FOR NON DOUBLE STANDARD DOCTRINAL FAITH.
Should the pastors ministry overshadow other ministries? All ministries should work as one body in the body of Christ. Foot soldiers who support falsehood on tithes preaching and teaching are calling Christians who do not support tithing to ask for forgiveness in face saving cover up. They have stood as heroes of faith in tithes teachings falsehood. Christians bear no apology to no one for preaching and teaching the truth . Only those who preach and teach falsehoods are hurt by the truth. Christians should not be coaxed by great promises and deadly threats hedged in none doctrinal falsehoods promises taught in guarded personal ego gains. With God, the means justify the end in Jesus Christ. Christians should not be hoodwinked by groaning delivery of falsehoods and the glory associated with the fruits of falsehood benefits . As we speak on the falsehood on the doctrine of tithing for Christians, we have not closed our eyes to the needs of the Church nor have buried our heads in the sand devoid of understanding of our emotions to face the truth. We stand for truth aware of forces against the truth within the Church and outside the Church. We have been asked to ask for forgiveness for not supporting tithing without being told from whom to apply for forgiveness. We do not pursue and preserve justified falsehoods which meet the needs of the Church for with God, the means justify the end in Christ. We are told we point an accusing finger to the clergy on issues concerning tithes falsehoods. We are part of the body of Christ and no part of the body accuses other parts. All body parts coordinate in functions and take care of one another when giving our body parts that are not comely more honor .We only pin point doctrinal falsehood taught by clergy thus taking care of the body of Christ spiritually in love. We do not waver in our minds and hearts in our stand on tithes issues. If one is stuck in sticky clay of falsehood, us a Christian one has to owner up and warm up to the truth and shape up to be free in did. We are fully aware of glorious unstable spiritual empires built on quick sand by men through falsehood under threat from the truth. If the empires fall apart there is no loss for Christians to worry about for apology. We are warned of danger of teaching and preaching the truth by exposing ourselves to well organized affluent churches of men. We stand for Christ in life and death. Well organized fruitful falsehoods from those in authority do not translate to truth and righteousness.
Those under the law are under curse and the law kills 2 Corinthians 3:6. Those lead by the Spirit are not under law and curses Galatians5: 6, Galatians 3:8-13. Christians are redeemed from the curse of the law to adoption of sons . Roman 8:1-17,Galatians4:4- 5. We saved Christians are not under law but under grace Roman6:13-14.Are they telling Christians curses under law are blessings for them or they have powers to remove curses when Christians tithe to them? Christians must remain spiritually alert and be not be spiritually blind, They have directed Christians to deceptive ways of curses for their own benefits and not blessings. The bounty of terror of deceptive covetousness is professionally tactically presented as blessing based on salvation under yard stick of tithes. Many pastors have illegally allocated all tithes to themselves. Tithes were for specifics needs under old covenant for specific people help. Apostles of CHRIST did not use concealed deceptive covetousness to preach the Gospel .1Thessalonians2:3-6.We should renounce hidden things of dishonesty and not walk craftily handling the Word of God deceitfully 2Corithians 4:1-2. The body of CHRIST has been subjected to doctrinal mess by Levite priests and Levite pastors. TITHE IS A PURE CLASSIC SLEEK DOCTRINAL FALSEHOOD FOR CHRISTIANS CULTIVATED IN UNMATCHED PERSONAL CONCEALED ZEAL BY PASTORS IN LEADERSHIP FOR PERSONAL INTERESTS AND GAINS WHO UNDERSTAND UNIVERSALLY ON TITHES AND SALVATION AND FAIL TO APPRECIATE THE TIME OF LAW AND THE TIME OF GRACE DISPENSATION. In willful deception by calling themselves the Levites of today who persecuted Christians and plunder Christians pockets today they are able to demand to be given tithes. Levites priests and elders never gave a helping hand to Christians. Christ did not leave His Church under Leviticus Priesthood and no Levite priest was chosen as His Apostle . Leviticus Priesthood is forced on the throats of Christians by pastors for perfectly concealed selfish interests and gains. Do they want to tell us that Christ and Apostles of Christ forgot to ask for tithes during the early formative stage of Christian Ministry. When we take the Word of God out of its content and contest ,we have contempt for the Word of God. He (GOD)who brought tithing under the old Covenant took it away in His(CHRIST) own Divine rights in the new Covenant.
We can preach the Word of God quoting scriptures like the devil when he tested Jesus or quote the scriptures like CHRIST when He answered satan in time of need. Matthew 4:1-11 . Jesus Christ taught men can teach commandments of men for doctrines. Mathew15:5-9. This addressed falsehood which can come from those in authority in the Church ( bishops, pastors, priest and elders) leadership. We can have a zeal of faith and commitment to establish our own righteousness not according to righteousness of God in the knowledge of his Word. Roman 10:1-4. Pastors and priests calling themselves Levites today have capitalized on low level Christian doctrinal knowledge teachings among Christians. Tithing contradict the doctrine of salvation in GRACE and deprive the Christians in Loyal Priesthood in Christ Jesus the individual empowerment to do the Great Commission. When we are loyal Priests to whom do we tithe to? Is it not even if it were in Natural world for servants to tithe to Loyal Priests? Pastors Priest and Bishops are also in the Loyal Priesthood of Jesus Christ all of us being sons and servants composing the body of Christ unless they exclude themselves. The underlying mystery is to deliver the Church of Christ in concealed form to Leviticus Priesthood for Priests ,Pastor and Bishops to enable them demand tithes. Mathew15:5-9. We can preach the Word of God making the Church a house of merchandise to make merchandise of Christians and those who do so whose God is their belly which made Adam and Eve to fail in their relationship with God .It is a lucrative profitable business based on arithmetic of numbers cunningly preserved with tactical appreciations to the body of Christ and spreading of the Gospel. Are elect Christians deceived out of their wits? Romans 16:17 -19 ,2 Peter 2:1-3, John 2:16, Philppians3:17-19. We can preach Christ out of envy, strife or of good will. Philippians 1:15-17,2Corinthians4:1-2. It is the body of Christ the Church which is sent to preach to the world also as individuals brethren bearing the burden to preach to the world as Apostles of Christ did. The responsibility has not been on shoulders of priests and pastors only. Brethren are the loyal priests and ambassadors of Christ and has committed unto us the Church the word of reconciliation, 2 Corinthians :19-20. THERE WERE NO FENCE SITTINGS AND ARE NO FENCE SITTINGS IN THE NEW COVENANT MINISTRY MEDIATED BY OUR APOSTLE AND THE HIGH PRIEST OF OUR FAITH LORD JESUS CHRIST. Apostles labored with their hand to provide for preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Christians’ offerings they received were not tithes. No one is specially chosen to be at receiving end of tithes so as to preach the Gospel of Christ. We saved Christians are the Loyal Priests AND Ambassadors of Christ.2 Peter 2:1-9, 2 Corinthians5:14-20. The preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not entirely sorely in the hands of clergy. It is in the hands of the (Church) believers.
Tithing is a hard topic to teach without spiritual understanding since we have many high profile elite preachers teaching on the same with books written of great hoped promises and condemnation on the same for those who do not tithe, Ephesians 5:6-7, 1Thessalonians 2:3-4. Some well educated elite Christians are involved in deceptive teaching on tithes which is warmly appreciated from the pulpit. They are the magnetizing force with alluring great hoped blessed promises of wealth based on tithes. When will it dawn on them that they teach doctrine of men a false doctrine on tithes for Christians saved by grace. On moving from one church to the church or by taking a flight from one continent to another continent on falsehood mission, lies taught on tithes by them cannot be justified by the sacrificial cost incurred to do so. Only when they uphold the truth and uplift Christ as they decrease and Christians stop earthly social status cult adoration in respect of human beings will truth prevails’. Pharisees and the Scribes were most well educated and Jesus said woe unto them seven times for being stumbling blocks in faith. Mathew 23:9-39. We only need to rightly divide the Word of God and know whether we are Christians seeking salvation under the law or we are Christians saved by grace in Christ through the Spiritual law of love, Corinthians 1:12-16,2 Timothy 2:15 . We redeemed sons of God who are made Kings and priests unto God have a common inheritance in Christ Jesus, Galatians 4:4-5, Colssians1:9-14 ,1Corinthians 2:12-16. Revelation 1;4-6 .Let well educated brethren teach the Word of God the same way as learned Doctor Luke and Br. Paul did for spiritual growth of the body of Christ. Let well educated Christians stand for justice like Dr . Gamaliel who was a doctor of law who in his response rescued the apostles from eminent death in the hands of Levite priests, Acts;5:17-42. We are called spiritual sons of God after salvation not before in fallen state and who are enabled to do the righteousness that was in the law but we are not under the law. The same priests and pastors wreck the spiritual scriptures when they teach fallen Angles are called sons of God who married daughters of men giving offspring of giants , Genesis 6:1-8. God says he has never called any angles his son, Hebrew 1:4-5.When were fallen angles redeemed and sanctified to be called sons? The ownership of increased daughters is unto men before being referred to as sons of God and the lust to polygamous marriage was with men. Are beautiful daughters born today for men? Shall we have another episode of fallen angles marrying daughters of men before the close of age? Many have taught the Word of God outside Biblical doctrines so many are deceived in their teaching and preaching which condemn God as unjust since no judgment is passed to angles they refer to as sons of God. When men dropped further from grace when they practiced polygamous marriage and their life span was reduced to one hundred and twenty years , no judgment is passed to purposed angles they teach us sons of God. The sons of God were men who had done reconciliation to God the same way Abel had done and was accepted by God. The judgment is specifically to mankind and giants born in sin of polygamous marriage do not qualify the sons of God to be angles. Angles are ministering spirits with no reproductive empowerment, Matthew 22:29-32, Hebrew 1:14-14.
Our relationship to God our Father is in love in our loyal priesthood to the world. Roman 8:14-17. Only those who are not sincere mix teaching under carnal law and spiritual teaching enlightenment under spiritual law. When we study the old covenant it should help us get rooted deeply in the new covenant. The devil uses the nobles, evil and false witness to do his will according to circumstances, Acts 13;50-51 Acts 6: 9-14. Christians must remain wise and not be cheated by devils workers transforming themselves as angles of light which corrupt the Word of God, 2Corinthians2:17, 2Corinthians11: 13-15. Levites Pastor, Priests and some Christians misquote Jesus Christ on judgment. Judge not that you may be not judged . Matthew7:1-5. They say God prohibit judgment which is not true since it is based on taking the scripture out of content and contest on understanding Jesus statement. It has given them a highway of teaching lies without being questioned. They have separated themselves from the body of Christ to ideal entity who cannot be censured. Shall you close your eyes to evils committed that they may not judge you. Do you buy yourself freedom from being judged for not condemning evil or commenting on anything positive or negative. The preaching of the Word of God is based on judgment on sins and righteousness . God requires from us righteous judgment in wisdom and in love which condemn sins which leads man to repentant of sins and redemption. The Word of God in its content and contest states judgment on sins and righteousness. All living beings and organic life are in constant judgment for existent. If we can stop all processes of judgments life will come to a standstill and ultimate death with final judgment of decay. Life and all creation were established in good judgment by God and close of age shall end in judgment to eternal life or eternal death which is eternal life of suffering and separation from God. Genesis 1:1-31, Genesis 2:1-25. Even our bodies judge us out of energy and we hunger for food and thirst for water. All witty discoveries are results of acknowledgment of positive judgments on well active coordinated principals. Christians are encouraged to solve cases in judgment among themselves. 1Corinthians 6:1-7,The Bible encourages us that our love may abound yet more in knowledge and in all Judgment and we judge ourselves dead in Christ, 2 Corinthians5:14 ,Philippians 1:9-12. Life is in active constant judgments and the creation mourns for final judgment which it shall be subjected by God. We relate in evaluation to all things in judgment. What we known and do not know is based on judgment. What we believe right or wrong is based on judgment. Irrespective of any judgment delivered on us we should delivers the Heavenly Kingdom judgment to sins. We saved Christians are counted and judged worthy to suffer tribulations together with Christ when we live Christian life in love ,Revelation Chapter1,2 and3. We thus judge ourselves dead to sin in Christ Jesus.
There are may be those who preach tithing to saved Christians for lack of spiritual understanding. We should girdle up the loins of our minds as the knowledgeable wise sharers of the Word of God . 1Peter :13-15.Roman 10:1-4. We shall be off the hook of being soothed ,cornered, and been cheated on doctrinal issue in Christianity. God bless us in abundant grace of spiritual revelation and spiritual understanding of His Holy Word, Colssians1:9-14, Ephesians 5:6 -7,1Thessalonians 2:3-6, 2Timothy2:15, 2Timothy 2:24-26 . Amen
I am happy and blessed to interact with you on spiritual teachings. Hope we shall search more scriptures for our beneficial spiritual growth . Yearning to receive your input on the topic .God bless you.
The message is freely given purely to the body of JESUS CHRIST worldwide.
By Br. Robert Munyui Kamunyu

30. Ryan Laytart - August 1, 2017

Malachi 3:8-11, Malachi 3:17-18 NIV
“Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—your whole nation—because you are robbing me. Bring the WHOLE tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe,” says the Lord Almighty.

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This is not a matter of salvation, but is a matter about our earthly condition. God says to TEST Him in this. In reading Malachi, we see it as God’s invitation to us to allow Him full access to our substance. – Conversely, we can fearfully (or greedily) give God what is left, rather than the first fruits. It’s the classic Satan “flip” of scripture. “Surely, God will still bless you with the promise. He understands your plight.” God is then assumed to have no inclination to pay any mind to the “devourer”, the “pests in our field” or the premature ripening and subsequent rotting of the fruit (of our labor). Interesting to note that this is the last thing God says to mankind before going silent (for 400 years leading up to Christ?). I consider this to be an important footnote on connecting the Old Testament to the New Testament (again, not a matter of living under the law, but more so a matter of understanding our Creator and His expectations.)

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The inevitable cry of dissent: “See my budget? Tell me where this tithe will come from.” – But, “…He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will also supply and increase your store of seed and will enlarge the harvest of your righteousness.” (2 Corinthians 9:10). The strong-point of Malachi is God’s challenge: “Test Me in this…”. So, what happens when we do test Him?

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Finally, Christ’s words: Matthew 6:24 – “No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money. 25 Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? …33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you.” (my own opinion is that by giving God His tithe, we declare our trust in Him, and not money)— …and back to Malachi “…that there may be FOOD in MY house.” It’s up to us to ensure God’s house is a place of refreshment and nourishment. God has a plan of provision and caring, and to no great surprise, it’s based on faith.


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